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We recently read an article in the Centrally of Chronicle describing some UFO sightings

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you've made in your area.

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Apparently you have had a lot of experiences.

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I'm wondering what was going on down there.

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Well, that was Dr. Lomar up there in Centrally.

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He said I ought to report on them.

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I said, listen, if I'd report on them, I'd be calling that newspaper every day.

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You seen him that often?

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Yeah, we've seen eight here this past week.

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Eight?

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Yeah.

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Are these fairly low level or at the high altitude type?

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Oh, they was up probably 2,000 feet.

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Well, you must live pretty well out in the country then, have very good view.

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I live right in town in Toledo.

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You do.

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But, uh, and I take my binoculars every night when the night when the clear weather and drive around here.

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I see.

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A lot of times I pick them up before that Catholic mission is out up there.

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And, uh, they seem to hang a lot around the east of place up here on the hill.

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Now, they've been a stand there.

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They, they, they hover over that Bonneville Power Line east of where my restaurant is.

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I own that drive-in up there where that free zoo is at.

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I own the animals.

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I see.

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I got animals in there blowin' over the world with some of the dangerousness of being extinct.

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I've been raisin' them for 28 years.

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When I first moved up there, 12 years ago now in June, one night I was out there burnin' papers.

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I'd seen a real bright light out there over there west of where my restaurant sat.

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And I couldn't figure out what it would be so I dug down right down to low.

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And, uh, so I got the lost and I was burnin' papers.

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Pretty soon I'd see the dug down thing went real dim.

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And it got bright again.

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And it went dim five different times.

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And the fifth time it went dim, why, it took off.

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It went north and it stopped up there over the town of Napleside.

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And it hovered there for about, it stayed there about an hour.

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Then it went east over about where that gas field is at, at Murray's Corner.

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And it hovered there for about an hour.

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And it does that same thing.

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When it gets ready to move, it starts going dim and ride about five or six times.

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And then it went south down here somewhere.

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I couldn't see where it went to.

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But when I came home at 1130, why, I stayed and hovered out there east of Alcomie's house.

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And about six years ago, one night a girl from Plymouth here and her boyfriend was

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coming from Windmob.

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And one falls along the side of them about 30 feet high from the bottom of the tight

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field over to where Alcomie's, I was going to go up there, the highway turns to the south.

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And the Plymouth Saucer just went straight out in the east there, see.

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Yes.

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But you know, huh?

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Go ahead.

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In 1974, we started seeing different covered lights on them.

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The red light and the blue light.

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Now, up in the top, there'll have two blue lights and down on the bottom, they'll have a red one.

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And then the ones that start the green lights, well, they've got the green and yellow is what they are.

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Well, now I've got everybody in this country watching.

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But anyway, I started cutting in 1974.

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A guy was down here one day waiting for the bus to come in.

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His kid was coming in on the bus here.

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He asked me, said, you can watch them UFOs this summer.

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And I said, yeah, I said I've only seen three.

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Hey, I've seen a dozen or more up there.

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He said, what do you think of them red lights, huh?

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Well, I said, now listen, I hadn't said anything about them red lights to anybody on my life.

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I said, I didn't figure anybody's business.

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I said, my eyes been going haywire here lately.

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And I had to start wearing glasses when I read.

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And I didn't know if it was my eyes or not.

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But I had heard of it because of binoculars.

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And he said, yeah, I've got a red light on.

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Oh, right.

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But it's really something.

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Well, now these objects that have been seen over the electric transmission lines,

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are they fairly low?

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Yeah, they'd have to be fairly low.

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Well, a guy called me the other day and he said, I want to talk to you about that.

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He said, I've seen that one over there that you're talking about over there.

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You know, if he's west of Windmob, he said, I want to show you right where that is.

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He said, I just live a little ways from there.

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He said, I've been seeing that in there.

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He said for several years.

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What I want to do, I want to get a

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infant red lens from my movie camera and I'm going to get some pictures of it at night time.

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Well, if you do, we sure like to hear about it.

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Now, are you the man who's connected with these meteorites?

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No, we have no, our investigation is strictly UFOs.

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Is that right?

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Right.

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Now, have you in all the years that you have been seeing these things, have you ever had

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any close encounters with them?

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Well, I've seen two of them in the daylight here about six years ago.

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East of Toledo up near Mount St. Helens.

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Now, they were perfectly round and the big one taken the lead was twice as big as the one behind.

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Now, I know they're being brought here on mother ships because I've seen one when their mother

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ship over in Alfonso Delgado be three years ago this April.

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Me and another guy, the guy that owns that around the music company of Nashville, Tennessee

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and him and myself and my wife.

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And I know longers here that I've seen them up here working for a warehouse.

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I've seen the mother ships up and small ones come out of as high as 10 of them come out.

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But you know these guys won't tell nobody nothing about it.

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Well, I mean, you can't blame them.

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I haven't.

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I never used any of them guys names only the guys that them guys are at night.

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They wanted me to call the paper and tell them about it.

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That's the only reason I call the paper.

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Yes.

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Like I said, as I could have told them about these for years, I've seen I've seen over south.

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No doubt.

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Because in the summertime up there in around the restaurant, I see them every night.

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Well, now, have you ever seen any of these things come down in the land or come to near landings?

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No, I never have.

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And I know people around three of here have seen them land at nighttime.

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Uh-huh.

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They've been landing up there, uh, west of the airport.

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A woman seen one of us from the up there in the restaurant here about three weeks ago.

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Well, do you keep any records of these, uh, uh, files of any kind?

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No, I don't.

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I used to write it down when I date when I've seen it.

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And I thought maybe one time I'd write a book on it about it.

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But I don't know what I have to tell it.

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Well, that takes a lot of time.

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I got a book wrote about the big clips.

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I've done a lot of research on the big clips and I, every time that I try to get anybody to type it off,

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I change the dot-dot thing around like they're writing a story and I'm, I'm old.

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And I'm just telling them that they're writing and all this.

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They want to cash in on their redot-dot thing.

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That's right.

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I can understand that.

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Well, now, uh, what is the name of your restaurant?

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I see.

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What highway is that on?

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Well, it's on the freeway.

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Right on the freeway?

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100 miles south of Seattle.

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Uh-huh.

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I've got all colors of deer, redwood, whitewood, blackwood, and, uh, herd of elk, and, uh, four-head of uproof.

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Well, that's the one on the right side of the freeway heading south.

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Yes.

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I see.

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Okay.

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Is there any, uh, particular time of a day or the week that a person could come down and talk to you?

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Oh, you can talk to me anytime.

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I'm, I'm dead nothing.

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I've had all the, I could name dozens of guys and police were here that I had looking at these UFOs all the time now.

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The reason I got a hold of them that night, we've been talking down there in those calisthenics about a week before that.

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And, uh, there was a bunch of guys there and they said, now listen, they said, if you want to get a hold of these UFOs, you get a hold of them.

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He watches them every night.

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So, you got a hold of them.

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You said, now listen, the guys down around the garage there, they're talking to you.

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The guys down around the garage there tell them, you're watching for UFOs every night.

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And I said, if you ever see another one, I want you to call me or come and tell me.

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He said, I want to see what one of them looks like.

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And I said, well, man, I said, we'll be seeing them.

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I said, if the weather clears up, no doubt.

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But then I said, we'll only see in three.

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I only see in three last year, but I said, don't be seeing about a dozen or 15 of these.

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But I said, we'll see some.

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There'd be no doubt about that.

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So I called him and told him, and he couldn't find his binoculars.

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He called me back and said, well, I can't find my binoculars.

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I told him he couldn't find his binoculars.

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Call me back and I'd bring mine down.

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This guy, is he an astronomer?

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Oh, no, he just retired.

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Guy's been in business here about 50 years in this big truck shop and grew out there in Toledo.

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Oh, I see.

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And so I went down there with my binoculars.

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While I was there, well, he's got a brother who lives there too, but he was,

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so I got him out there looking at it.

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And you could see the red blue light on it.

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He only had one blue light up in the right hand corner to the red one in the left hand corner.

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And while he was there, his brother, his friend, came down there.

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And they all viewed it to the binoculars.

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They said, well, they'd never seen this light that before.

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So it hadn't been for them people who wanted me to call the paper.

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I wouldn't even call the paper about that one.

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My brother seen one landed one time on his branch about 20 years ago.

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Now, he told me that he looked at it too with binoculars.

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And he says that the box-dancing has popped ventilators on it that opens up along the side of it.

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But he thinks that the air comes out of there that makes it run through.

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I don't know what it is.

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I see.

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But anytime you want to call, make a point with those, I'll be sure to be here.

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Oh, fine. That would be great.

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We've got a bunch of rants down here.

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We've been working on the rants since the winter time.

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We build roads in the summertime.

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We've got real good trucks coming up.

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Bro, all right.

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Well, we sure appreciate talking to you sometime.

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And as soon as the weather clears a little bit, I'll give you a call.

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How did that be?

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Yeah, well, that'd be fine.

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I sure appreciate your talking to me tonight.

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Well, now, didn't you come down here?

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Does that name sound familiar up here?

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Wouldn't this meteorite sound here a while back?

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We spent a considerable amount of time investigating.

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We didn't go to the site because of the weather.

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Where could I sell some of those meteorites at?

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You mean the fragments?

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Well, the main ones.

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I had a genius to build a bullfighting machine for me one time.

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And we've discovered that it picks up meteorites.

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Took you 20 years to build it.

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Oh, for really?

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I picked up gold as far as 25 miles away with it.

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Well, there's several scientific organizations in this country

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who are searching for meteorites.

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I got him out here about after the excitement of love over here with

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and he found that in one hour's time that one fell up here.

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Really?

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Yeah, it turned out about four feet of snow.

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But I know that's it because I had him out here about two years ago

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looking for gold.

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It's posted in a gold treasure buried up in there.

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And there are days in about 1850.

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He never got any kind of readings up in there on that rock forever.

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And that was pretty close to that same area for this meteorite fell.

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I know where there's some big meteorites.

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There's one fell down in California.

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I used to be down in a highway construction.

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I was making my brothers working on that three-way 101 about 100 miles south of Eureka.

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And that dog burned the meteorite fell in the big patch of Oak Creek.

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The Oak Creek is about three to four foot through.

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And it just, it just, well, it just right then right the ground under it.

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It covered about nature where that one fell.

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Well, I think, how big is the one that fell on the 14th?

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What?

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How big was the one, this last one you found?

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Oh, I don't know.

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I like to say it was covered with snow.

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We didn't, we didn't try to go up, we got it within a mile of it.

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I see.

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But his innocence worked on it.

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And every one of those docked-on things that we have picked up like down on that reading

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has been meteorites.

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I, him and I found one three years ago up in their east of, south east of Randall,

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Washington.

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And it had three rare earth minerals in it, three rare earth minerals in that docked-on rock.

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It fell in a rocky terrain and it was a rock.

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All it was about the size of almost a big large tub.

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And a lot of it was just brown colored rock that we kept breaking the docked-on thing off and

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testing it as I took pieces off.

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Finally got down to a old spot over the box, about the size, a little bit bigger than a baseball.

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And almost just around east it had kind of brownish yellow colored crystal like a tub in it.

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And I sent that in and they said it was meteorite and it had three rare earth minerals.

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And it was just in it.

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I see.

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But I sent in, in all the time I've been looking for this gold, I sent in 30 of them that was

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meteorites, small pieces.

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Hopefully that's the worst thing about it.

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Docs probably kept saying no gold, we're picking up 10 things.

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I dug a hole down there, I was down at Madden, in the Oregon two years ago looking for that

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docked-on Spanish traitors supposed to be buried down there.

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That's $500 million worth.

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And I dug a hole there, took out a meteorite of 10 feet deep in the ground.

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It took me eight hours to dig that docked-on hole down there, dug that hole three feet wide

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and 10 feet long and 10 feet deep.

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Well I had to dig a big fence in order to get enough room to work on it.

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But on these, you have a force, have you ever had anyone come to interview you from an official

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agency?

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Oh no, I've never had no.

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But I looked, they tell me, boy I ate these reports, that's not the same reports.

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Now they tell me that guys that have reports that have got pictures of them, that somebody

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come there and picked them up on nades and all the way from them.

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Do you know of anyone who has pictures?

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Yeah, I know some guys who got some pictures.

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I didn't know them, but I, a different guy told me about it and I called them up and I

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devised the negatives from them and I found a nighttime there.

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Looked brighter than the docked-on starters, it's just pitiful.

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Well, regarding these mother ships, would you have any idea the size, just from a visual estimate?

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Well, I put it in the fire there once I rolled in and sent them a deal on a day's

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nothing, $50,000, they made it true that they were out of space.

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But I would say that that big one was probably a couple thousand feet across.

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I would say that it was probably 40,000 feet higher than what I've seen.

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And it looked the same docked-on size as the moon does when it's full.

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This was seen on a fairly clear night.

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Well, it was on the evening about the, oh, it was just dust and not tall.

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But now listen, if I could get a guy to talk to you, I could take you out here to die.

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I was telling his kid, he was a kid with a barber over here, it wasn't lost,

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and I was telling to hear about the old, sometime there last year.

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I was telling him one time, I said, you know, I see a couple of U.S. boats one time

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out there in the daylight, I said, out east of where you guys live.

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Well, he said, we've seen them thousands of times.

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He said, we've seen them ever since we were kids.

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And he said, my folks see them all the time.

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Now they read days, time around that, and now St. Helens a lot.

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And I was really surprised because I always figured they flew.

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I've seen some in the daytime and it looked like the table's just like I played on the table did.

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But I couldn't figure this out unless they were turning up on edge of turning.

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But he told me his dad, he told me that he said, more I've seen them flying,

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just blown at a terrific speed.

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Lamb toot, I see now up there, they were blown across the sky.

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They went across there and was out of sight before I could even get to the coast,

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or into now the house.

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He wanted me to go out there with him and look at that truck you think about buying there.

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I was just standing there leaning on that back down that truck bed with my arms

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and looking off in the space and I seen them two things go by.

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But I said, I've seen them go at a terrific speed and all the ones he just stopped.

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That big when he said, and just up there.

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I said, what was it?

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He said, I don't know what it was.

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I said, but do they have a fine song?

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Well, he said, I don't know.

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But he said, you know, man, tell people to think he's crazy.

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Yes, I can understand that.

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Has there ever been any story circulating in the area, or have you ever talked to anyone that

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has claimed to have seen the occupants while they seem to be around the ground?

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No, no.

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I've never seen one or no one about ever seen one.

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What would be the best area for an individual to go down there to watch?

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Well, now a guy told me one time,

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it's been a year to burn old guys up there and old miners from up there at Randall.

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He gave me a guy's name at the Halus.

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He said, do you want to talk to a man that really knows something about them clients'

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officers?

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He said, you should go talk to him.

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But I never did.

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I forgot what his name was now.

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But he told me that they go up there every September and watch them.

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And they, as they crossed over the cascade, divide somewhere along about where the white

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path is at to get up on the summit and watch them.

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I don't know, but for not, I never do.

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We'll see the guys.

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But he claims they crossed there in a daytime.

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Now, I'll tell you, them Dock-Don things are hard to see.

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Did you know that this helicopter crashed here the other day?

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That last thing that went up there, he seen a bright light right above that Dock-Don helicopter

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before that rotary came off.

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And, now, this is hearsay, but this is the one he was telling me last night.

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If Randall Zabard were over there, they'd be seeing all that now, too, all the time.

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He said that, well, I don't know who told him, you worked here but the county, I suppose,

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had been talking about it, but he said that the Dock-Don ace picked it up on the radar

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up there at the airport.

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Something that was above that helicopter.

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Was that the one that was carrying the bell?

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It hadn't got the bell yet.

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I seen that helicopter come up here and I looked out the window when I went by here

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and then I just started downtown to go down to pick up the mail and came back.

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They'd only been gone about 15 or 20 minutes and they came back.

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They said they'd went up there, poured and stopped and had coffee.

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They came back and they went down south here and some lives up there on the hill.

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They'd seen a turn.

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I think what they'd done, they went down there probably to where the

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three-way bridge crosses the Callis River and they turned and then they went north.

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They always fly north along the left side of that three-way.

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And there were a couple of guys going along there that seen that road come up.

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And one of those guys said that he'd seen a bright light right above that Dock-Don helicopter

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that just, you can already see, that bright light.

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Now I've seen them bright lights in the daytime here myself.

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Along in the evening when I used to come home from work different times.

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One time I was coming home and I seen one know with it,

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Shahala, it was a real bright light.

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Come on for just a couple, three seconds.

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And went out and it was daylight enough to like it had seen something that had been an airplane there,

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but I didn't see a Dock-Don thing.

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Now I kind of think that then things must be invisible in the daytime.

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That's a very good possibility, yes.

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Now I don't know, that one up there,

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and two that I've seen over there at that time,

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it was about dark, like I say, and I got a good view of them.

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You could see in the center that the Dock-Don center of it was a little bit darker

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than the outside edges was.

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So the center is, I suppose, maybe a nice shaped deal.

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It was a little bit darker.

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I've seen another one one time here.

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This has been about six or seven years ago.

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I want me to come down and pick him up.

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He got picked up for driving and he's working for me.

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And when we come down and pick him up, that Sunday someone's gonna get him.

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I've seen something shining.

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And I just as I went in behind some trees, I backed up then,

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and I said they were looking at it.

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I could see the Dock-Don thing is shining.

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And pretty soon more of that big one took off and went straight up.

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And man, it went out of sight in the middle of the flat.

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Well, now these longers that you've talked to,

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you talked quite a few of these come into your restaurant.

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Oh, well, I know all these guys around here that have been here for years.

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I've been raised here.

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I've been gone for 20 years.

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I was down in Oregon, California.

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And I was late construction and logging and mining one thing another.

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And I know all these guys, but they won't probably talk to anybody because they said,

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my list man, they told me they said,

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you're nuts because of that paper.

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Why you said, man, there'll be somebody out to talk to you.

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He said, well, I said, there always has been.

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I said, call me up, come down there and talk to me about it.

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He said, I'll report them all.

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Well, he said, they'll think you're crazy if you do.

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What was the name of this astronomer?

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Paul Newman.

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Oh, he's from the University of Washington.

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Is he?

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I think so, yeah.

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Yeah.

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He lived there in San Sergio.

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I seen one there the other night.

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Uh,

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was just Thursday night.

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Now that was under 14th night it was.

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But anyway, I stopped there at 15th on the way home

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into Halis and I come out there and I've seen a doctor.

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Regal Hubbard out there with that new ballpark that's built up there about 2,000 feet.

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And I called him and he was called up to over 10th earlier and he couldn't see it.

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But if you have to go and dim and get invited,

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then that about a half a dozen times, but it never did move.

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Now, I know that whenever they go dim a few times, they're getting ready to move.

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I don't know what causes the little dim raising about it,

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but the good guys told me they're operated magnetic to that.

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I'll tell you one doctor thing, more of them things than really travel.

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I'll bet you that they're going 35, 40,000 miles an hour.

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It's unbelievable the way that two speak to cost is five.

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And that time I seen that one over there in El Cordovaada.

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I asked that, I said, you ever see a plane in Salterton?

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He said, no.

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I said, you stop the car and I'll show you one.

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I've been watching going along there.

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It's already got dim three days of time.

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Right again.

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And so we stopped the car and he said, that's a star.

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No, I said, that's no star.

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I said, you watch the night.

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It'll go dim pretty quick again.

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I said, it's getting ready to move.

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Very soon it started going dim.

430
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Boy, he really got excited.

431
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Oh, it's going dim.

432
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,400
It's going dim, he said.

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Sure, I said it is nice, but you just watched nice.

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It's going to move before long.

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And he got by it again and it went dim again.

436
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The next time it went dim, boy, it started out and went straight west.

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And it went down there a long ways, man.

438
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He just took the cross to the outside sky and believe him.

439
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That all down there.

440
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And it looked like I could see another one.

441
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The more I thought that I thought that I was a star.

442
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He looked like a star.

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And by golly, it got down and it stopped back away from that light.

444
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And it started going slow.

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We could see it was getting closer to that other light.

446
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And it went right up.

447
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We just lost it from the time it went up.

448
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When it was two feet in the day, it started all the way up.

449
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It went right into that other dark, down light.

450
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And there was just one light left.

451
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I got your name here.

452
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I got down a tape.

453
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I was going to call the other time.

454
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,000
I was going to see if you know it anywhere.

455
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,600
We'd tell them that meteorite.

456
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I'm going to go down to Port Arsford one of these days and get that guy out here.

457
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And I'm going to find that meteorite, that Port Arsford meteorite.

458
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They claim it for two million dollars.

459
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,400
If it's there, we can find it.

460
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,080
It's got down machinels, go down 400 feet deep.

461
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,080
It'll be too deep to dig it out.

462
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:43,200
Yeah, it's true.

463
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:48,960
But if probably covered up with erosion now, two feet maybe.

464
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,520
What I wanted to do is just to mend some red lenses.

465
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I took one of my movie cameras.

466
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,600
I had a movie camera built here.

467
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,680
It put the sound on the first one they ever built in 1953.

468
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,040
And, oh, I got lots of movie equipment.

469
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I followed the big foot for, it says, 1947.

470
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,000
Got a lot of movies up.

471
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:18,960
You know, them guys, that guy from Do The Graphic magazine last summer asked me,

472
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,440
they said, now, do you think these big foot connected these flying saucers?

473
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,840
I said, now listen, man, have you ever meant something like that?

474
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,200
I said, you don't think there's a man here, crazy for sure.

475
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,240
I said, I've thought that for a long time.

476
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:39,280
But I said, oh, I wouldn't want to dare put anything in the paper about that.

477
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:47,360
You know, a UFO over here one time landed over here on the hill, not too far from here,

478
00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:49,600
over there where I found a young fellow on the bader.

479
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:57,200
And my golly man then got on two embarrassed tracks, just appeared right there.

480
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,120
I got the UFOs and walked through the snow.

481
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,120
I hit the snow on the ground and walked around the water trough there two different times.

482
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,560
And right back out past that house, now then, he was in the Christmas tree area,

483
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,520
where there was Christmas trees, and George England had been cutting them in there.

484
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:20,240
And he walked right out there, boy, and they just, well, the deputy sheriff told me,

485
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,440
they said, boy, it's a big thing, we've ever seen, they said.

486
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,080
It's similar to the old big foot tracks.

487
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,480
Well, it was the same thing, the deputy sheriff told me.

488
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,600
I was gone the time I was up at Mount St. Helens.

489
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,800
They'd called me and I wasn't home, and there wasn't a way to get in the hole up in the cross.

490
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,640
I was up at Mount St. Helens area, up in there looking for the big foot.

491
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:48,560
And anyway, them things, they got right in that helicopter, right in that UFO or whatever it was,

492
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,560
trying to toss it, and took off.

493
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:57,120
And that guy told me that they heard it go, take off in there.

494
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:05,840
It just sounded like air rushing through, it got gone through a tunnel when that rig took off.

495
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,720
I know another guy here that's seen one.

496
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,160
Oh, I could tell you it does, the guy's seen him.

497
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,760
But anyway, this guy's a good friend of mine, and he wouldn't tell a lie on a stack of eyeballs.

498
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,400
And he told me, he said, my pier has been about three years ago, and he said,

499
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,080
now I've seen the damn thing today I've ever seen in my life, he said.

500
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,400
And he said, I was up here at the ranch, and he'd said there's a snow on the beat.

501
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,360
That was in the temporary, it was two years before this last February.

502
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:40,560
And he said all at once, he just put snow on, and here this damn thing was, about 250 feet above me,

503
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,440
he said, he said it was a kidney shaped thing, it wasn't making any noise at all,

504
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,400
and just traveled by at a terrific speed.

505
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,600
I said, what time was that, 10 o'clock this morning?

506
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,080
And he said, yeah, why, how'd you know?

507
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,480
And I said, well, I started to win, about 10 o'clock, and I said, up there down the road,

508
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,320
my radio just put play, and went completely dead, I got a push button radio,

509
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:08,320
and I flipped it, and it didn't play a thing, and I got her down there at the Mormon church,

510
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,360
and it started playing.

511
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,000
And I know a woman, oh, I told everybody about these,

512
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,480
I thought, don't you have both children coming from years around here?

513
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,520
This woman was working out there, her neighbor, she's working here in a drug store,

514
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,080
and she told me that in one day it's been about a year ago now.

515
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,640
But she said my daughter and her boy said they seemed one of them flying saucers last night,

516
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:35,600
and said they stopped the watches, and the minute they stopped, the car went dead, the motor,

517
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,560
and it wouldn't start.

518
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:43,360
And she said they had to walk home, and then she said my husband and I, and we went back down there,

519
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:49,200
and took them back down there to get it, and she said they got in there, and he got in there to

520
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,640
check to see if it started or didn't start, and it started right up.

521
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,800
But I know in a lot of cases, it makes them car motors go dead.

522
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,920
Well, thanks again, Mr. I'm going to get back to you in a couple of weeks.

523
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:02,640
You're welcome.

524
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:03,440
All right, goodbye.

525
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:04,080
Bye-bye.

526
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:04,640
Yes.

527
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,880
This is Bob Grebel of Phenomena Research in Seattle, and we recently talked to a

528
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:15,040
who, who advises that there was some kind of UFO activity going on down there, and said

529
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,160
he wanted to investigate.

530
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:18,160
Did you find anything?

531
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:20,480
Oh, tonight?

532
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,200
Yes.

533
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:27,440
Oh, well, he just told me that as I was going home to see what all the light was down beyond,

534
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,680
but I mean, where I turned off to come home, it was still further on down the freeway,

535
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,600
so I wouldn't have had any idea what it was.

536
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:34,480
Oh, I see.

537
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:38,480
But tonight, I mean, did he tell you tonight that he tried to get his wife and

538
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:45,760
I to the door of, you know, the hamburgers and the sewers when he said it just came down from

539
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,640
way up high, and by the time we got the door to look out, it was shooting, you know, down along,

540
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,520
you know, the freeway almost, and flashing away.

541
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,920
So, but I mean, you know, he was wondering what all the light was, you know, on down that direction,

542
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:04,480
and then, you know, said if I could make out what it was, to call him back, but I mean,

543
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,160
it was on down beyond right.

544
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,040
Oh, I see.

545
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,520
I mean, it looked quite a way like it might have been down as far as the College River,

546
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,120
even, and I don't feel nearly that far.

547
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,160
Was the thing still on the move, you saw it?

548
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:16,480
Yeah.

549
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:23,120
And I mean, it wasn't up too high at that time, and I mean, it was flashing, and it was, you know,

550
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,920
not too high from the ground, and I don't mean it was skinning the ground, but I mean, it wasn't,

551
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,000
you know, up, you know, too high.

552
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:35,520
I mean, a lot of private planes fly that low, you know, but it was really flashing away.

553
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:38,080
That's the first one I've ever seen.

554
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:43,280
I mean, I've gone on before and looked, you know, a few years back or so, but I just never

555
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,720
saw it, so I quit looking.

556
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:50,160
But I gather there's been a number of people down around Toledo who have really, you know,

557
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,320
been seeing him the last month or two.

558
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,560
Yes.

559
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,640
Now, were you in the restaurant at one?

560
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,280
This was same.

561
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:55,520
Yeah.

562
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:56,560
Yeah.

563
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:01,360
And he, you know, he came running to the back door and hollering at Elna and I to come out

564
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:08,720
and see it, and by the time we got there, it was already, you know, flying parallel to the ground,

565
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,240
you know, I mean, where he said it had been up quite high and came just straight down,

566
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,880
but by the time we got to the door, it was down and scooting, you know.

567
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,480
I think so.

568
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:18,960
Yeah.

569
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,880
And it was just parallel in the freeway?

570
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,800
I just took out.

571
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,600
I mean, it was a little, a little to the right of the freeway, the same as the hamburgers down,

572
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,720
but I mean, it was just like it was heading right along the freeway.

573
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:30,960
Yes.

574
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:31,840
Uh-huh.

575
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:33,920
Until it was out of sight.

576
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,720
I mean, there's a lot of trees, you know, that, but we could see it, you know, for some distance.

577
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,160
Now, did you say that this thing had colored lights?

578
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:42,960
Not this one.

579
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:48,080
This one was flashing and he said that's the first one he's seen that way that most of the other day

580
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,400
had been seeing it was flashing, colored lights.

581
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:51,360
Uh-huh.

582
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,440
Well, that's fine.

583
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,760
At least I know that there was something involved anyway.

584
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,080
And I mean, it wasn't small either.

585
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:06,480
I mean, you know, those flashes, I mean, really, you know, well, there would have been some

586
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,600
dimensions to them.

587
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,720
I mean, even from the distance where we were, you know, they weren't easy by any means.

588
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:14,800
How about the color of these flashes?

589
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,480
Well, what do you want to call it?

590
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:21,200
It's just like a bright light, but not golden.

591
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,200
And you know, I don't mean a golden glow to it.

592
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,440
And I mean, just, it's just the brightest.

593
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,240
They flashed.

594
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:27,040
I don't know whether.

595
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,800
And it was like, you know, it would be, say, like in stripes.

596
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:36,400
I mean, it wasn't just a solid glow, but it was either like, I don't know what it was,

597
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,280
but it was like stripes and ridges going up and down.

598
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,400
And they were seen to be narrower at the bottom and then spreading out a little bit more towards the top.

599
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,040
Yes.

600
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,520
You know, so they were a little wider at the top of it.

601
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,760
And I mean, how can you tell?

602
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:50,400
I don't know how.

603
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,360
The thing wasn't up too high, but I wouldn't know how far away it was.

604
00:34:55,360 --> 00:35:01,760
But still, each of those flashes in the bottom at the top, I mean, they didn't look like a little in-suit too.

605
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,760
I mean, you know, they had some links to them.

606
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,280
Okay, how about the weather conditions?

607
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:09,280
Right at that time.

608
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:13,440
It probably was, probably was sprinkling.

609
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,160
Well, then we did have, you did have a cloud layer.

610
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:23,280
I, I would imagine, because I know I left right after that and I had to turn on my windshield

611
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,920
lightly so I know it was, you know, a good sprinkle.

612
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:26,160
Yes.

613
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,920
And even what I wasn't seeing today.

614
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,160
Right.

615
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,040
About what time did this happen?

616
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:33,920
Do you have any idea?

617
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,080
Well, you see, I signed out at eight o'clock, so it must have been,

618
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,240
it's not, it had to be at least 10 to eight, I would say.

619
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:43,440
It could have been five to eight.

620
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,000
But right around in there.

621
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:46,240
Yes.

622
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,240
Because I mean, we were just about cleaning up and I was about ready to leave.

623
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:53,360
So it had to be right around five to eight.

624
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,160
I see.

625
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,200
Okay, well, thank you very, very much.

626
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:57,600
All right.

627
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:58,080
Thank you.

628
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:58,720
Good night.

629
00:35:58,720 --> 00:35:59,200
Good night.

630
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:00,720
Bob Kerbal here.

631
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,400
Yeah, hello, Bob.

632
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:03,840
I understand you saw something tonight.

633
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,400
As it does, I'm the thing I've ever seen.

634
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,600
Boy, that's white light on.

635
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:11,040
It was a turnin' like them Redlands has been and them Bluelands.

636
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,640
But that's the first time I've ever seen one of them with a white light on.

637
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,320
A turnin'.

638
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:18,960
I don't know, I thought it landed.

639
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:20,960
I don't know, I'm right down behind them trees over there.

640
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,720
I don't know where it could have passed the line of that.

641
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,880
It came down out of the sky.

642
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:25,520
It's come on.

643
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,440
Oh, I didn't wonder if it was about a, probably a thousand feet high.

644
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:31,280
Maybe a little higher.

645
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:33,360
But it come right down.

646
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:37,440
It was down within 400 feet of ground when it went in behind them trees.

647
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,880
Well, it was probably lower than that.

648
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,360
Maybe 300 feet.

649
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,400
But it was right south right, restaurant there.

650
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,360
Oh, it was probably down there a thousand feet.

651
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,000
Uh-huh.

652
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,000
There's a couple little strips of fields, open field in between that timber.

653
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:54,800
It was all.

654
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,000
But that light was to down down right.

655
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:59,440
It was unbelievable.

656
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,000
It just showed up around that down down, right on the bottom of it.

657
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:04,640
Uh-huh.

658
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,800
It just let the whole sky up.

659
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,120
Did this, did you see it as it was coming down out of the sky?

660
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,600
Yeah, I think it was up, like I say, around

661
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,800
about a thousand feet or so when it came on.

662
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,000
Was this a vertical drop?

663
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,240
Yeah, coming straight down.

664
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:21,040
Yeah.

665
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,160
Did you get any, uh, was there any, uh, outline that you could see?

666
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,200
No, I couldn't see it.

667
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:29,520
It's all light.

668
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,040
It's not something on that bright light.

669
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:31,760
Uh-huh.

670
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,200
And mine was radioverted.

671
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,360
It was spinning light?

672
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:36,880
Yeah, yeah, it was spinning.

673
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,480
That's where all these other lights are.

674
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,960
These red ones and blue ones were benefiting on them.

675
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,040
You say this was on the bottom of the object?

676
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,640
Yeah, well I'd say it was on the bottom, because all I could see was just,

677
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,840
just, they just lit up everything right underneath it.

678
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:50,320
I see.

679
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,320
And that was the only light that was on it.

680
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:55,200
Uh-huh.

681
00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:01,600
You know, uh, they seemed to be big R-shaped flying things too, just like them rigs.

682
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,000
That can ruin the water.

683
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,800
Oh yes, yeah, we've heard about those.

684
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,920
Now a kid up here, about, oh, it's been about a year or more, maybe,

685
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:13,760
maybe not quite a year ago.

686
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,520
It was not, probably been nine months ago.

687
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:23,440
A kid up here lives up on the hill, just a little kid, about eight or ten years old.

688
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:29,600
He seen one roll with a barn there one night, and he said it was a roll.

689
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,640
It rattled out ten roofs on the barn, but I don't think that was, I think it was probably

690
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,840
making a little bit of noise, maybe, and it sounded like it was rattling ten on that roof.

691
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:40,560
Uh-huh.

692
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:46,480
Well, now, this one tonight, did it just continue moving off horizontally away from you?

693
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,320
Oh, no, it just came down out of the sky down there and went in behind them trees,

694
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,480
and I couldn't see where it went to.

695
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:52,960
Uh-huh.

696
00:38:53,520 --> 00:39:00,560
See, it was down, down the road from the south of my rest area, probably a thousand feet.

697
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,560
But when it gets down behind the trees, then I couldn't see nothing.

698
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:04,880
Yes.

699
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,600
I think it has landed, but I don't know, like I said, I'm in the works of the land

700
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,320
that I'm in right now, unless it was in that little strip, there's a couple little narrow strips there.

701
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:20,560
It slowed down a lot there at the last, though, it didn't, uh, what come this past the words

702
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,280
to start with.

703
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,640
Now buying dollars, them things, and really bring that to a quick home, I'll tell you.

704
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,120
Yeah.

705
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:26,960
They're getting off of close to you, aren't they?

706
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:33,440
Well, I never thought to tell you last night, that man told me up there last Friday night out

707
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:38,800
there, they had a, he's a little bit retired here, and they had a party out there for him,

708
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:44,160
with the little new grains, and he told me that a week ago, that night, he seen one a

709
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,880
hundred over my rest, and about 400 feet in the air, and he said he stopped there,

710
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,880
and he said, he'd been there about a minute, and he said, boy, it took off with the word

711
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:53,760
Mount St. Helens.

712
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:55,280
I'll be there.

713
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:02,960
And I think he said it had a, I think he said it had a blue and a red light on it.

714
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,720
He couldn't make out any outline either.

715
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,200
Now listen, if I had an infant red lens, we could make an outline on them.

716
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:11,520
Right.

717
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:12,880
That's what you need.

718
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,960
Has anybody got any around that we can get?

719
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:21,200
I've got a movie camera, 16 millimeters, got an inch, uh, opening on it.

720
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,400
If we had an infant from red lens, I'll get some pictures of them, that's darn thanks.

721
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:35,040
Now, this guy's run that service station, he's seen one there, what'd he say, two or three nights

722
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,720
ago, after over there to the right of the freeway.

723
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,800
But that's what they do.

724
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,520
They hover over that down line over there, then they go to Napa Vine, then they'll make

725
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:52,480
another move east, and they'll, uh, hover over that dot down over there, the word that gas

726
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,520
or installation, the way they got that gas field there.

727
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,000
And he said it was hovering over there to the right of the freeway over that,

728
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,520
where they got that pump station there.

729
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:04,080
Oh, I see.

730
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,480
Then he said it moved, and went about two miles and stopped again.

731
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,320
And he said it started running like a son of a gun, and he said he went on in the

732
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,240
house and forgot about it.

733
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,840
Well, how was the weather tonight when you saw this?

734
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,280
It wasn't raining any tonight.

735
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,440
Never clear.

736
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,520
It has been a rain like a son of a gun all day, though.

737
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:25,840
Yeah.

738
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:28,720
It's literally poured.

739
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,400
Have you heard of anyone else that saw this tonight?

740
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,400
No, I told them, my wife, that was right there with the door.

741
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,560
I got it out there before it went down behind them trees.

742
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:47,920
Well, I talked to this, and she said that when she was on the way home, traveling down the freeway

743
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,560
tonight, she could still see the thing heading south parallel in the freeway.

744
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:53,200
She could.

745
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:53,600
Yeah.

746
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,040
Is that right?

747
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,920
Well, it was probably standing still down there then, maybe.

748
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,080
Well, she said by the time she got to her turn off, the thing was well south of her.

749
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,080
She figured it was awful close to the river.

750
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:11,920
But she said that it was obviously quite large because the thing was really bright from even

751
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:12,800
her distance.

752
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:13,360
Yeah.

753
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,120
I'll be down going.

754
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,960
Well, it didn't land, and well, I didn't know what it done.

755
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,880
Maybe it did turn over there and take off.

756
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,520
I don't know.

757
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,560
Did she say if the light was still heard or not?

758
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,080
She said it was still very brilliant.

759
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:28,800
It was brilliant.

760
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,720
She said it appeared to be flashing.

761
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:31,840
Yeah.

762
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,120
Well, that's the way it does.

763
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:34,800
It turns around, see.

764
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:43,760
And it seems like maybe on one side it's brighter than it is on the back part of it because it's

765
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,000
kind of got a shadow a little bit when it turns.

766
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,040
And one side is really bright.

767
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:54,400
I see.

768
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,520
Boy, if I had some infrared lens now, I guarantee I'll get some dark, dark pictures there.

769
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:00,400
Some of them.

770
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,040
Well, I'm going to get some.

771
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,280
I'm going to get a whole newspaper, somebody in CPAC to borrow one from them.

772
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,720
Well, we sure appreciate your calling about this.

773
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:14,960
Did they call a radio airport up there?

774
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,960
I think they tried to get through, but they for some reason they didn't make it.

775
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:27,040
You know that guy up there told somebody here a while back that they picked up something on

776
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,480
the radar here.

777
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:29,920
One night we seen one of them.

778
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,640
Well, no doubt they do.

779
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:35,360
I don't know.

780
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:38,000
I don't think them guys are allowed to tell anybody anything.

781
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:44,640
You know, I called the church department here one time along the summertime there,

782
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,240
but when that one kept moving a little bit, tried to get them to come down and look at it.

783
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,600
And they said they didn't have anybody in there at the time.

784
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,440
So if anybody come in, they send them down, but nobody come.

785
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,160
But I was up there feeding the animals that night.

786
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,560
I didn't come with that day, and I got home late and I went up there about 10 o'clock

787
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,880
that night, and I was feeding them.

788
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,520
I was feeding the dog dogs, and I was setting up their long and dry, the freeway bottle over there

789
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,920
for about a while from the station here.

790
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,760
So they took off and went about four, probably a mile south and stopped again.

791
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:25,680
And I was feeding them along there and kept walking pretty soon they moved again.

792
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:32,800
And then it was still there when I left and to go home.

793
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:37,760
And I tried to get the dog-drawn sheriff department to send a deputy down there

794
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,320
and some paper clothes and view that dog-drawn thing.

795
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,880
Well, do you feel that possibly the electric transmission line is what is attracting them?

796
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,840
Well, now listen, I'll tell you, every dog-drawn time I've seen that up there to

797
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,440
rest at night time, there's always a hover over that power line to start with.

798
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:01,600
And scene one here about, well, it did about three weeks ago now.

799
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,400
It's been about a week since it told me about it.

800
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,160
He's seen one up there hovering over the dog-drawn power line,

801
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,200
and he was just flying right down the power line.

802
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,760
He's going along there in his car, and it had a real,

803
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:22,400
he said a real bright green reflection with a yellow, yellow light in the center.

804
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:30,800
But I know that these dog-drawn, them other lights are flashed,

805
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,360
these guys have got better eyes, and I've got to tell them that these other lights are all

806
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:36,800
alternate. I see.

807
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,760
Up in the air there.

808
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,840
Have you guys ever seen any of them?

809
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:48,640
No. I haven't. Several of the other people have.

810
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:54,000
There was one that hovered over that dog-drawn scene plant.

811
00:45:54,720 --> 00:46:02,080
I was at work, and it's been about maybe 67, somewhere along there.

812
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,800
We got the check with the mill where I built that route up there, both bills, to be sure.

813
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,880
But I've seen one up in that, around down that area a lot.

814
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:18,480
At night time, and then early one morning, we was going to work, but then I saw a little Charlie.

815
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,280
I said, boy, look at that bright star, I said.

816
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,120
And that's before I really know too much about them.

817
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:32,320
I didn't know, you know, I hadn't been to see them getting bright and damn too much there.

818
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,360
But anyway, this was just that bright.

819
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,240
I said, look at that dog-drawn bright star there, Charlie.

820
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,240
He said, boy, that is bright. There's about six o'clock in the morning.

821
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,720
So, pretty soon I said, by golly, it ain't no star.

822
00:46:46,720 --> 00:46:47,920
I said, it's moving now.

823
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,840
It took off and went up there about to where that steam plant was at.

824
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:53,360
And stopped.

825
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:58,000
And that's when they built that steam plant up throughout the centrillion.

826
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,800
So, and then I've seen one one night down there,

827
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:10,160
well, several nights, coming home late at night time, in December time, the days is long.

828
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,120
And I've seen one down there, I stopped there one night and I got a hold of a guy,

829
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,920
by the name of Guar, down there, there's that old bill.

830
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,720
And I stopped and told him, I said, there's a UFO right there.

831
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:24,560
And the plant stopped right here, I told him.

832
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,320
Boy, he said, that's a star.

833
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:27,760
And I said, no, it's not either.

834
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,800
And we stood around there for a while, I'm looking at it.

835
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:36,000
And he said, it took off and went straight east towards the steam plant.

836
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,480
Well, I've seen them hovering over the Dodd-Born, Columbia River too.

837
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:46,320
One time I went down to there one night, I called in, I need some for the cat,

838
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,800
I broke something that day and I called in and they put it out.

839
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:50,480
And they have a place to put it out for you.

840
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,520
And I went down and picked up that night coming back.

841
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,360
I seen this Dodd-Born thing over the Columbia River.

842
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:58,960
Now, this was did several years ago.

843
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,720
Probably been 14, 14 years ago.

844
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,600
But anyway, I don't care what it was.

845
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,440
It was, you know, it wasn't up too high.

846
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,400
Maybe it, maybe a couple of thousand feet.

847
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:18,160
So I kept watching the Dodd-Born thing and I thought it looked like it was kind of going

848
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,400
down and so I pulled up there and stopped then.

849
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,040
And it went down a couple of times after that then.

850
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:26,560
And then it went out.

851
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,040
And I didn't see a Dodd-Born thing.

852
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,680
I sat there for a couple of minutes pretty soon to come on.

853
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:38,480
It was hovering over a house on the Oregon side there about 400, 500 feet above the house.

854
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,240
And then I come on home and I didn't see nothing about it.

855
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:45,280
And the next day my wife read, we're two women from Olifthia,

856
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:51,120
had seen a flying saucer hovering over the Columbia River south along due.

857
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,840
But I have a report that because nobody believed it.

858
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,560
Because there's been people around here at that time, the environment.

859
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:00,560
Nobody really believed them.

860
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,760
Okay, about what time was your sighting tonight?

861
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:04,400
Eight o'clock.

862
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:11,920
Okay, if anything else big happens, why, be sure and let us know.

863
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,040
Oh, we didn't get a whole one in for red lenses now for a camera.

864
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:23,600
A telescope with an inch deal with a line of female threads.

865
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,840
It's got to have the threads out on the scope.

866
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,720
One inch in for red, female threads.

867
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:29,680
Yeah.

868
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:32,960
Well, this would be a male thread.

869
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,960
This screws in to the deal on my camera.

870
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,160
See, that has the threads on the lens.

871
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:44,000
But now these in from red lenses, now that National Geographic magazine was out here

872
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,280
are running a survey on a little big tip data.

873
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,160
They got some pictures of those big tip up there in the dark, they claim.

874
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:54,080
And they were down to my place taking pictures of the animals there one night.

875
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:56,640
I'd love them to clock.

876
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:03,280
Now, if we could get the whole of them, that'll show that thing right up.

877
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,320
Just like daytime.

878
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:06,080
Well, I'll work on that.

879
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,080
See what I can do.

880
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:08,400
All right.

881
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,120
Okay, and thanks very much again for calling.

882
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:11,760
You're welcome.

883
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:12,480
Okay, good night.

884
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,280
Bye.

885
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,880
Well, I'm terrible in Seattle again.

886
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,000
Yeah, well, now listen.

887
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,400
You ought to be here with some Doc Donman offers.

888
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,680
A spot of two of them tonight just to dust.

889
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:23,520
The light is bright.

890
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,440
I had a 40-tower scope on it up here in Brownsville Town.

891
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,240
Davis is a kid.

892
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:29,040
There's Windlock.

893
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:34,720
And we got that one in sight just before dark there.

894
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:41,520
It showed a real red light in the center and blue on the outside edge.

895
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:44,640
And then we put the ground on the other one.

896
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,880
And it had a blue light.

897
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:49,200
Let's see now.

898
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:51,280
Anyway, it was just off.

899
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,320
Only it had a green light around the outside edge.

900
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,960
And then we put it back on the other one.

901
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,360
And it had changed altogether.

902
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,720
It had a, it was all red in the center, just a dim red.

903
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:09,360
Not a real, wasn't real light red like it used to be at first.

904
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:11,360
First it was blue.

905
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:16,400
And it showed red all over with just the outside edge of it was green.

906
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,320
I'm just hooking up my binoculars now to my tripod here.

907
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,640
I'm going to go out and give a bunch of guys a short term.

908
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,000
What part of the sky is this in?

909
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,240
It means a Southwest March.

910
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,560
About, but if you know where the town of Windlock is, why,

911
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,920
it's south of Windlock a little bit.

912
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:40,560
Is the object moving at all?

913
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:40,880
No.

914
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:42,400
It's just panacea.

915
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,880
And I started to scan this guy here tonight.

916
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,640
I was living clear here at dusk.

917
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,280
And more I spotted two of them.

918
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:53,440
But you never know.

919
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,280
Now we come, I come home last night and I was going to go to bed.

920
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,200
The guy called me up, or the state representative here from down here.

921
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:03,040
The police called me and said, Clay Gorgasman,

922
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:04,560
see me at the end of the clock.

923
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,720
At 12 o'clock he closed that place up and we walked outside.

924
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,080
And I said, by golly, I said there are two UFOs right there.

925
00:52:12,720 --> 00:52:13,760
And there's a bunch of guys.

926
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,520
And their names all out there viewing them.

927
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,640
And they said, well, now they said, boy, that is a different

928
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,160
dot down color than the stars.

929
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,960
That's from that United Parmigian field we're here in Windlock.

930
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,640
And we said there was about five minutes.

931
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:29,920
One of them started going, damn.

932
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,000
And it went real damn.

933
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,360
And then they got right again and done that about five or six times.

934
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,600
And then the other, and it started doing it.

935
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:40,480
And pretty soon by golly, they both went out.

936
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:45,040
And when we stopped them in the sky again, all the ones that come on, real bright,

937
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,600
they moved over there several miles to the west.

938
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,920
And then that cop come along and him and I viewed them

939
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,000
till almost two o'clock this morning.

940
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:59,760
And finally, they went out, one of them, when him and I was watching them.

941
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,240
And it took off, one of them.

942
00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:05,440
And then the other one out.

943
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,600
And then about five minutes later did come on.

944
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:08,400
Come on home.

945
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,400
And then I got the binoculars up.

946
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,840
Turn around to the north, west here.

947
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,240
Steve spotted something moving up there.

948
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,560
One moving around the stars, I told you about.

949
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,880
It stopped two different times.

950
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:27,920
It just stopped that up around in stars.

951
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:32,560
The only time we could see it then was, you know, when it starts moving.

952
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:33,120
Oh, yes.

953
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,720
But, golly, I can't find that dot gone.

954
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:47,840
The stars now, her name was, I think, was, but they was going to get their address last weekend.

955
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,200
They said they might go down there.

956
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:54,240
But she said they heard some weird dog noise was out in the yard.

957
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:58,880
And they went out there and he was going in, down, down, trying to find the answers.

958
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:00,480
And this was when she was a little girl.

959
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:00,800
Yeah.

960
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,640
How old a woman is she now?

961
00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:04,080
Oh, I don't know.

962
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:05,680
She's married.

963
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,040
That's about all I heard of her.

964
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,880
But anyway, they were going to get her phone number and everything.

965
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,600
I said, we'll get her phone number and guys probably want to call her up.

966
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,520
But I can't even, well, I know that's the name.

967
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,760
Because I remember writing it down.

968
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,480
I had a road on the back one of your cars.

969
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,240
I may have given that car to somebody.

970
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,800
A guy told me the other day he'd seen a lot of them.

971
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,080
I gave him one of your cars that I don't know if that guy has a call in or not.

972
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:31,360
Well, you never can tell.

973
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:32,080
I can't even tell.

974
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:32,800
I said, I tried to call.

975
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,760
This is where they all give me call and collect my stuff.

976
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:36,400
Just call them.

977
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:38,960
Oh, I said, we're going to run them down the road.

978
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,760
That's all people, you know.

979
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,040
This guy lives in Elma.

980
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:46,160
Elma.

981
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:46,560
Elma.

982
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:47,120
D-R-M-A.

983
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:47,520
Oh.

984
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,240
That's on the road, the Abedin.

985
00:54:50,240 --> 00:54:50,640
Right.

986
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:54,480
Well, I'll get ahold of that.

987
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,640
And then I'll get her, from these whites, her name again.

988
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,720
And like I say, they said they might go down her last weekend.

989
00:55:02,720 --> 00:55:05,200
I don't know if they did or not, but it's really good to talk to them.

990
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:05,600
Uh-huh.

991
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:07,360
Oh, that'd be beautiful.

992
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,200
The guy gave me an article here yesterday about one of those singers.

993
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,320
Now, I don't know what his name was.

994
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,360
Jerry O'Rourg, Greg O'Rourg, something's his name.

995
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:25,440
He'd seen one over there in 1962 between Los Angeles and Las Vegas.

996
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:26,560
Landed.

997
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,440
And he said that steel dome was turning.

998
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:31,440
Uh-huh.

999
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,760
And boy, it might have scared him to death.

1000
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,600
Yeah, well, you know.

1001
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,840
Somebody read about him, he's got an article in the paper here,

1002
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,200
and they dropped that paper out there yesterday, clipped it in it.

1003
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:42,640
Well, was that the National Inquirer?

1004
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:45,840
No, it wasn't in the Inquirer.

1005
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:46,720
I don't know what it was in.

1006
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:47,280
Uh-huh.

1007
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,120
I asked him, he said, no, it wasn't.

1008
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,360
I dropped the dog-drawn thing and picked up it.

1009
00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:57,760
You've been doing any sky watching?

1010
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:00,240
Well, my vertebrae's been out of place my neck.

1011
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:01,840
I haven't been a doing much watching.

1012
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,920
I had to blow the car back, because the other day,

1013
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,680
we really got the wrong thing around here.

1014
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:10,480
And I pulled that vertebrae out of place my neck.

1015
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,880
I went up there just a day or two before you was here.

1016
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:16,880
I haven't maybe been a doing any watching.

1017
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,000
Now, you're going to have to get yourself a cot and lay on your back and what?

1018
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:21,200
That's what I was just thinking.

1019
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,880
We'd been down on our hands and knees and looking through that dot-dots telescope

1020
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,520
where they'd be the other car around out there in the devil.

1021
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,040
And the knee's a dot-drawn car.

1022
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:30,880
I could not have walked a couple days here.

1023
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:35,600
Oh, I can't do that.

1024
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:36,000
That's all.

1025
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:40,240
Did you talk to Paul?

1026
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,560
We didn't get a chance when we were down there.

1027
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:43,920
We spent most of the afternoon.

1028
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,720
Well, John, you want to see what Paul's from, man.

1029
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:47,840
Now, there's a taken name.

1030
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:51,040
All the guys live over there in that dot-drawn car.

1031
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:57,600
And I'm going to say that woman, did I tell you about that woman that's first in the liquor store?

1032
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:01,120
About that one of them, I found her.

1033
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:02,800
I don't think I've seen you since then.

1034
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:05,520
No, I don't.

1035
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:06,320
That's a new one.

1036
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:13,200
Anyway, her daughter went out that Jones Road that leads out there underneath that power line.

1037
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:15,680
Oh, I don't know, a year or two ago.

1038
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:21,200
And it followed her with them dot-drawn lights on it.

1039
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:26,000
It followed her out there and it hovered over the house whenever she took this girlfriend out there

1040
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:27,680
to get something.

1041
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:28,960
The house then they came back.

1042
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:34,240
And like the scared them real to death, it followed her back down the road there then, almost to Wimlock.

1043
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:41,680
But you see, they've been hovering around them power lines out there about 100 feet above the power line.

1044
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:42,720
Right.

1045
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,080
And all them people know that.

1046
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,640
That's quite a sub station out there too.

1047
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:48,480
That Nabilvine to me.

1048
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,000
Yes, that's a big one.

1049
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:50,960
Well, and it is.

1050
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,160
That's what falls on me.

1051
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:54,800
He said they don't go to Nabilvine.

1052
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,600
He said they go right down the power line and down right over the sub station there.

1053
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:00,880
Well, I never thought of that, see.

1054
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,400
I just thought it was over and over the dock down in town in Nabilvine.

1055
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:10,960
But anyway, this is a hot spot here where there's no question about it.

1056
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,680
They're charging them batteries up without a doubt.

1057
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:18,080
You know, the reason I've never said that about that, I figure our government owns them.

1058
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,720
Now, my brother got a good look at them one time and I said, you know, what makes them work?

1059
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:24,960
There's no question about it.

1060
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:28,720
They got vents that opened up on them.

1061
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:30,960
He looked at them with binoculars.

1062
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:38,480
And he says that they worked with some kind of shutters that opened on the bottom of them

1063
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:39,440
and then got gone.

1064
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:44,400
When their motor's turned, it pushes the air, it sucks the air through from the side

1065
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:47,280
and pushes it down to make them go straight up.

1066
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:55,840
Then when they want to go, you know, in a straight line, why then they open them up

1067
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,280
on the side is something like he told me all about.

1068
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,280
All he said I've done is owned them without a doubt.

1069
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:04,880
And he said they're coming out of New Mexico.

1070
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,960
That's where their home station is, without a doubt, he says.

1071
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:11,920
So I don't know.

1072
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,800
Anyway, that's why I've never used such much about it.

1073
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,800
But then Captain, they want me to put that out on the paper.

1074
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:20,800
So I put that one in there.

1075
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:28,080
But I'll tell you, it's a good thing that the government does own it that they should never tell

1076
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:28,880
them they're nothing.

1077
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:34,640
They've got done, you know, everybody telling this information, they've done the least

1078
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,000
of it, they ought to shoot them.

1079
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,240
And then if they catch them, then they shouldn't even give them a try.

1080
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:38,720
They're shooting.

1081
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,480
But anyway, nevertheless, we're wrong.

1082
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:45,440
They're using something.

1083
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:48,400
Oh, they've been around for a long time.

1084
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:49,840
Well, that's right.

1085
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:54,960
Now, them Indians talk about them blue-lice in the sky, man, for 300 years, their ancestors

1086
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:55,920
tell that idol.

1087
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:02,400
But anyway, why, they're quite a machine.

1088
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,520
Well, we'll try to get a hold of this, see what you have to say.

1089
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:08,560
Yeah, that's right.

1090
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,000
They probably got a phone.

1091
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:11,280
I haven't seen the old man.

1092
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,240
I don't know if they went down there in these wires last weekend or not.

1093
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,520
But I'm sure that was their name.

1094
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:23,040
Doc's done, I can't figure out what they've done.

1095
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:23,840
Heck, I didn't.

1096
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:24,480
That's hard.

1097
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:27,760
I had it in there.

1098
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,280
I may give one in far away.

1099
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,440
I had it rolled on the back of that card.

1100
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:32,880
You know what?

1101
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,240
Put out or not underneath that old system.

1102
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,240
And let me run down to pick up the people sitting there.

1103
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:38,640
Okay.

1104
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:42,000
Bob?

1105
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:42,800
Yes.

1106
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:43,840
Yeah, that's Jackie.

1107
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,760
Is that J-H-E-K-I-E?

1108
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:46,160
Yep.

1109
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:46,560
Uh-huh.

1110
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:55,440
And that buddy that's seen that one, he's a singer.

1111
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,120
And he said it had a brilliant white-licing light.

1112
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:01,760
Well, he's seen one, no doubt.

1113
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,120
Now, there's no question about that.

1114
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,960
All they've been a number of people told me around about seeing them.

1115
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,960
I just told them this morning down there, they've seen some here

1116
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,120
about a year ago up there over there.

1117
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:18,480
And I've seen them out there.

1118
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,960
That's where I've seen all of them out in that same area over there.

1119
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:23,360
And then, uh-huh.

1120
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:30,880
Oh, well, you get down here and just watch around in the downer line here at night time

1121
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:31,840
when the weather gets good.

1122
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:34,480
They'll be around there.

1123
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:34,800
All right.

1124
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,840
Well, we got a couple spots picked up to do a little overnight camping.

1125
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,360
Did you go out down a King Road and look up that hill there?

1126
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,680
Well, I don't know what the name of the road was, but we went right down to the

1127
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:52,960
substation and then checked out some of the other under the power line.

1128
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,520
Well, now, if you don't find them any time you let me know, I know where they stay over here.

1129
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,800
I see them almost every night in the summertime.

1130
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:06,960
But I've seen more here now than the last rock down three weeks and I've ever seen

1131
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:08,240
that any one time.

1132
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,200
Well, there's still one night down there, Toledo.

1133
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:14,160
There was two of them.

1134
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:16,160
I told you about seeing them, I think, didn't I?

1135
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:16,480
Yes.

1136
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:18,240
Jim Nettlin seen them.

1137
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,160
Hey, I wanted to tell you about that light, too.

1138
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:23,280
That guy seen over there with the helicopter?

1139
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:24,400
Yes.

1140
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:29,120
He said that light was about 200 feet above that helicopter.

1141
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:30,800
He said he was watching the light.

1142
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:32,800
I wondered what it was.

1143
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,640
He couldn't see nothing but that light.

1144
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:39,680
And when that helicopter come along and got right underneath that light,

1145
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:45,440
he'd seen a big, toughest note and the road came off to the Dock Down Helicopter.

1146
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:47,520
Is what he said.

1147
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:54,720
Now, by golly, I don't know what it done, but he said that big, bright light is all he could see.

1148
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:01,360
Well, I've seen them bright lights before, by golly alone in the evening and couldn't see a Dock Down thing.

1149
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:02,240
That's why I see.

1150
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,600
I think they're invisible unless it's dust.

1151
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,960
After just dust a little bit, why then do they show up?

1152
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:16,000
I've seen one of them one time up there, it's a big, bright light.

1153
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:18,400
And I'll be done, gone.

1154
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,160
There wasn't a thing when the light went off.

1155
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,400
I stopped and looked and there wasn't a thing to see.

1156
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:27,920
What was his name again?

1157
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:29,520
Uh-huh.

1158
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:35,760
Somebody told him about it, but there's one of them guys that was traveling to see,

1159
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,680
he lived in Seattle, it was owned by Seattle.

1160
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:40,960
He had paid to get a hold of him.

1161
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:41,520
Yes.

1162
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:47,280
Now, the Army, the Army probably knows who it was because they said the guy called in,

1163
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,760
there was two guys seen it that I know of.

1164
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,800
One of the guys stopped over there, my boy, Stores Wimlock, and made the phone call and said

1165
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:56,960
that he's seen the helicopter twice.

1166
01:03:58,240 --> 01:03:59,840
South of the Wild Animal Park.

1167
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:00,160
Yes.

1168
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:07,600
And the other guy, he reported to us from up here somewhere else, going north.

1169
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:11,680
Do you remember the date on that?

1170
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:13,840
No, I don't.

1171
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:15,440
I can check that anyway.

1172
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:19,840
I don't remember the date, we could live with that guy, probably at the papers at his home yet, maybe.

1173
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,240
You know, they never did take the papers about that helicopter, about that

1174
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:25,920
road that's coming off.

1175
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,720
Yeah, I know, I followed that, I never did see that.

1176
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:34,640
They said that they didn't know what caused it to crash, it failed a clear hill,

1177
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,720
what a no hill that is, I don't love a ground.

1178
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:41,600
You know an airplane crashed in there one time by, got enough to long ago,

1179
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:43,440
and they could never figure that out either.

1180
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:46,560
In that same pass of brush, do you know that?

1181
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:47,200
No.

1182
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:47,760
That's right.

1183
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:54,080
An airplane crashed in there on a good third day and killed that guy.

1184
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,240
We're going to have to follow that.

1185
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:07,120
And that airplane, boy, I would say that it wasn't over, probably 300 feet from where this helicopter crashed.

1186
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,560
Well, when I get a hold of this woman, I'll let you know and...

1187
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:23,360
Just tell her that, tell her that that fly told me about it, about where they're seeing it.

1188
01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:23,760
Okay.

1189
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,440
Someone Maria skeptical, they won't talk to dogs gone deeply, you know, they're...

1190
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,000
You can't really give them a talk about this.

1191
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:35,120
Now, since I had the article in the paper, why everybody all over this country is seeing them,

1192
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:39,520
but they said, oh, don't give a buck cash that I told you this, they said, people think I'm nuts.

1193
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:43,360
I said listen, man, seeing is believing.

1194
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,080
I said, let them say what they want to say.

1195
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:48,960
That's what I told Donald the bank this morning.

1196
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,800
I said listen, the mayor was in there, I said listen, seeing is believing.

1197
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:55,040
She said, I'd like to see one of them.

1198
01:05:55,040 --> 01:05:58,160
Well, I said the next time I see one, I'll get a hold of you, show it to you.

1199
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:01,680
I said, I know what I've seen.

1200
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,640
And I said, ain't nobody going to change my mind on how I've earned you that.

1201
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,360
That there's been a lot of people seeing them.

1202
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:10,000
Sure.

1203
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,640
I know that, because man, there's been dozens that come back to me since I've seen you.

1204
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:17,920
But they've seen them all over this country.

1205
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:22,080
I'll tell you another woman, she didn't see it, but her daughter's seen one.

1206
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:24,480
She lives in Casarot.

1207
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:28,000
She used to work down in that dead stone Toledo.

1208
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,760
And she told me that one night, there was dollars going home there.

1209
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:34,880
I'd been telling them that the client told her, she's been seeing me all the time.

1210
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:38,080
You know, when I go in there, I tell you where I cost them.

1211
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,080
I said, I was seeing another UFO last night.

1212
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:41,840
They were talking about it, you know.

1213
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:46,000
So I got there one day, I went in there to get that.

1214
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:49,280
And she told me, she said, hey, my daughter's seen the UFO there.

1215
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,840
I heard her boyfriend, but they stopped to look at it.

1216
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:56,640
And the motor's died in the car and it wouldn't start.

1217
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:57,680
And they had to walk home.

1218
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,280
And they said, then we went back with them.

1219
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,400
And her husband was going to throw their car home.

1220
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:09,600
And I go, they got in there and started right up with that UFO was gone then.

1221
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:15,200
Well, I know it may not radio was dead one time there, but that was a kidney shape thing.

1222
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,120
That's where you lost an old thing.

1223
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:18,000
Yes.

1224
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:19,840
It wasn't around one at all.

1225
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,640
I got to get a hold of that gene talent.

1226
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,920
I talked to him and find out now about that one.

1227
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,720
It was a that they seen up there either.

1228
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:32,800
But all I know was around that they was unloading them and let them in or what.

1229
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:34,880
But I'll tell you another woman now I found out.

1230
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:40,000
Bill White is the one that lived up there around the SeaTac airport.

1231
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:40,560
Yes.

1232
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:42,800
It was dark in T.C. there.

1233
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:44,400
It led a dozen little ones out.

1234
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,280
A dozen lights came out of this other light.

1235
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:52,480
And two around about 20 minutes and went back in the mother ship and took off.

1236
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:56,240
And set right there about the same place as the North for about a half an hour.

1237
01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:58,240
I heard about it.

1238
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,840
I mean, I messed that to you.

1239
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:00,160
Didn't I?

1240
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:00,560
That's right.

1241
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:01,280
I think so.

1242
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:04,960
I talked to her husband in the meantime about it.

1243
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,400
Well, I took some movies to that light there tonight.

1244
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:11,920
I don't know if it'll show up or not.

1245
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:14,080
That's gone.

1246
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,520
I'm trying to get a hold of that special lens to take some pictures of that.

1247
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,960
All right, these guys, I know they've got to have some kind of view.

1248
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,800
Have you guys got any cameras of any kind to take pictures of?

1249
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:28,400
Oh, yes, all kinds of cameras.

1250
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,440
Well, what do you use to get a picture of them lights with?

1251
01:08:32,480 --> 01:08:33,840
Just playing color film.

1252
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:35,440
Playing color film?

1253
01:08:35,440 --> 01:08:35,760
Movie?

1254
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:38,640
Either one, either movie or still.

1255
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:39,760
Is that right?

1256
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:40,240
Uh-huh.

1257
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:41,600
It'll show up, huh?

1258
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:42,080
Oh, yes.

1259
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:42,640
Oh.

1260
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:45,440
Well, I'll be back.

1261
01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:45,840
That's gone.

1262
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:50,960
You don't like something?

1263
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,040
Yeah, well, I won't keep you barred.

1264
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,360
I'll let you know if anything is right, man.

1265
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:00,480
Thanks much for calling.

1266
01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:00,880
Okay.

1267
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:01,360
Goodbye.